Cosworth wing...does it work?

[vrinner]

Looking at those AI cars with the huge wings...I'm wondering how well those Cosworth RS wings work...you know...the really big version of the SVO wing? Then compare that to the AI cars. It seems obvious to me that the AI car wings would put down a lot of downforce but I wonder how the Cosworth wings would compare. Basically those and the SVO bi-wing are upside down airplane looking wings converting lift to downforce.

[Patrick]

You forgot to mention the drag of the wing design and your horsepower in your question. How many HP are those folks running the wings in question making?

[vrinner]

I figure those AI cars are making 350-400. Even in Autox at speeds in the 60MPH range cars run huge wings.

[Bob Holmes]

According to the literature, the G-stream wing, which all the AI and World Challenge guys are using, makes 600 lbs of downforce at 100 mph. I have no such information about the Cosworth wing, but it looks like it'll carry a beer rather well.

[Bob Holmes]

And, let me say this, when we had the wing on our car and the splitter, it was awesome. Aero is cool.

[schlot]

So you think that huge AI style wing was helping the Oldsmobile Trofeo I saw yesterday at Menards? Besides being able to carry drywall that is?

[Bob Holmes]

I find that when I transport drywall in that manner that it negates the aero.

[4themasses]

I love the huge wings on the XR4ti's.

However.....I've never understood the concept of a rear wing on a FWD car. Can anyone enlighten me?? Shouldn't they have a spoiler on the front of the hood?

[MikeFleming]

However.....I've never understood the concept of a rear wing on a FWD car. Can anyone enlighten me?? It's pretty simple actually: Rear wings add downforce to the REAR axle.

Keep in mind that wings only add downforce (change weight distribution and balance) at speed.

[4themasses]

I guess it works both ways then huh? I never considered the down force on the rear wheels for stabilization on a FWD. I guess I was thinking rear down force on the main drive wheels only.

Ok then its fine. I still don't like those erector set wings!

[Patrick]

Keep in mind that wings only add downforce (change weight distribution and balance) at speed.

Yeah, right. I leave for a day and the place goes all to hell.

979

Don't forget, gravity always wins.

[Bob Holmes]

http://world-racing.com/images/bcadhires.jpg

[Patrick]

^^^ blingdownforcemuddahfugga.com!

[Bob Holmes]

Hey, you pushed a winged Pinto out on the table, I just raised you a TC with two wings.

Beat that.

[Patrick]

Beat that.

Don't make me take you out. I can make another one just like you.

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[MikeFleming]

Do it!
Just Do It!

[Bob Holmes]

http://pinktentacle.com/images/10/bosozoku_43.jpg

[MikeFleming]

Bob - the front thing isn't a wing - that's the platform where the Miss America finalists stand in their bathing suits during the parade.

[grntRUDD13]

As silly as that twin wing setup looks, I do have to give them some credit for at least having the sense to put a wing on that will actually help with traction on the drive wheels. It does look pretty stupid though, so it ought to fit right in with the ricer crowd. As a bonus though, all the extra drag would mean that I don't even need the SVO to beat them in a race, I could just do it in my Wrangler.

[MikeFleming]

The Voices told me to post this!

986

Close this thread before someone gets hurt!

[vrinner]

OK...so back to my original question, does that big wind work or would a NASCAR type spoiler be better. I like the look of the wind only because it kind of keep in live with the SVO wing, however from a performance standpoint would a spoiler be better?

[8T6 SVO]

Yeah, right. I leave for a day and the place goes all to hell.

979

Don't forget, gravity always wins.

Is that a Turbo Pinto?