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Raven855
07-13-2017, 09:56 AM
I have tried the SEM 15303 for the interior plastic, it definitely has a green hue to it. I have heard the the PPG 33602 dye is the closest to original sheen and color. How does it compare to the SEM 39173? The SEM is easier to obtain in spray can and locally. Has anyone compared them? How do they stack up to each other?

MikeFleming
07-13-2017, 12:10 PM
I used an SEM rattle can and got a great match. Of course, I sprayed all interior panels using the same stuff.

I will get the can number to you over the weekend. Between Silverstone events, that is.

Raven855
07-13-2017, 12:15 PM
I got the SEM 39173 from your post Mike. But I have never seen anyone else use it and have not seen it myself.

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tommyb
07-13-2017, 10:18 PM
I have used the SEM 39173 (Dark Smoke) with excellent results for the dash pad and other pieces, you would never know the difference between the painted and adjacent stock pieces IMO

8T6 SVO
07-14-2017, 08:18 AM
I don't quite know which is 100% correct, but here is a link with other info.

http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?178629-Correct-SEM-color-for-85-86-trim&p=1829832#post1829832

Raven855
07-14-2017, 08:49 AM
I don't quite know which is 100% correct, but here is a link with other info.

http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?178629-Correct-SEM-color-for-85-86-trim&p=1829832#post1829832

I had seen that, but there was no discussion on the SEM 39173 for the interior. For the exterior the SEM39153 Bumper coat is spot on.

MikeFleming
07-14-2017, 01:41 PM
As good a place as any to put this.

Way back in 2005 when I was assembling the Red Baron I got up to cleaning and refinishing the interior panels. And, as expected some of them had scratches and/or gouge. Any roughing prior to painting just made it worse, but really minor issues would be covered by the color, and less obvious. Still there were a few places - such as the rear pieces inside the taillights and the inside rear deck cover trim with real scratches.

Fast forward a decade or so and I discovered a texture spray coating from SEM and decided to experiment with it. There are several "methods" to creating an even texture on smooth-like surfaces using sponge rollers, but I decided I'd try a different method.

Grabbing a space piece of 2.5" aluminum tubing (spare parts for charge cooler piping) I prepped it for paint and sprayed some of he texture onto it. IIRC instructions indicated that a heavier coat was deeper in texture. Allow to dry, second layer, dry, apply color, dry, inspect.

Some pics of my experiment.
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dagenham
09-03-2017, 12:10 PM
Matt at Fox Resto mixes his own formula that matches perfectly.

Raven855
04-12-2018, 06:31 PM
Thought I would post this here
SVOPAINT
1984*
EXTERIOR
Antennae and base SEM 39143 Trim Black
Body Moldings SEM 39143 Trim Black
Bumpers SEM 39143 Trim Black
Cowl cover SEM 39143 Trim Black
Door Handles SEM 39143 Trim Black
Spoilers SEM 39143 Trim Black
Window trim SEM 39143 Trim Black
Wipers SEM 39143 Trim Black
INTERIOR
Console SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Dash & Pad SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Panels SEM 39173 Dark Smoke


1985*
EXTERIOR
Antennae and base SEM 39143 Trim Black
Body Moldings SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Bumpers SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Cowl cover SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Door Handles SEM 39143 Trim Black
Spoilers SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Window trim SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Wipers SEM 39143 Trim Black
INTERIOR
Console SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Dash SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Panels SEM 39173 Dark Smoke


1985.5*
EXTERIOR
Antennae and base SEM 39143 Trim Black
Body Moldings SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Bumpers SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Cowl cover SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Door Handles SEM 39143 Trim Black
Spoilers SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Window trim SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Wipers SEM 39143 Trim Black
INTERIOR
Console SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Dash SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Panels SEM 39173 Dark Smoke


1986*
EXTERIOR
Antennae and base SEM 39143 Trim Black
Body Moldings SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Bumpers SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Cowl cover SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Door Handles SEM 39143 Trim Black
Spoilers SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Window trim SEM 39153 Bumper Coat
Wipers SEM 39143 Trim Black
INTERIOR
Console SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Dash SEM 39173 Dark Smoke
Panels SEM 39173 Dark Smoke

*Notes


The original spoilers and molding were molded in a colored plastic and were not painted. Some of the original spoilers were textured and some were smooth. The 1984s were colored black and the later years were charcoal grey.
The spoilers on bi-wing delete cars are painted body color.


The recommended way to attach the side moldings is with 3M VHB ( Very High Bond ) backing / pressure sensitive tape. Seems to be the only thing that works.


On the interior some have tried the SEM 15303 graphite, however it has a green tint to it and is not an exact match.


The SEM 39143 Trim Black is similar to a flat black.


Raven855
April 12, 2018