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fast Ed
07-29-2017, 07:49 PM
Hey guys


I joined here a few years back when looking at a different 84 for sale and was searching for info, ended up passing on that one and bought a really nice 88 Turbo Coupe instead. However the last 10 years or so I seem to have automotive ADD, and haven't become too attached to any of my hobby cars in that timeframe, so I'll drive them for a few years then sell to try something different. The TC went to a new home last spring, and then I also sold the modded 07 Mustang GT that was my track day toy later in the year. In the meantime I picked up a nice 95 Jaguar XJR as a cruiser, but still had a hankering for neat Fox car. Back in the day I had bought new an 87 LX 5.0L hatchback that became a Solo I competition car then a wheel-to-wheel racer in the local Showroom Stock class (my home track is Mosport). I'll also mention that I've been a Ford dealer parts guy since the late 1980s except for a few years where I was working at a local performance shop chain.

So on a Canadian Mustang forum around Xmas time last year a new person to the forum advertised an 84 for sale. He'd owned it since 1986, it had just under 70,000 km which is about 45,000 miles, and said it was a Comp Prep car. I went for a look and it was a decent survivor car with a few dings and scratches and evidence of a repaint on the right side door before his ownership. Turned out to be an option delete car since it had an AM/FM radio, but nothing else. It had never been driven in the snow, basically just a summer toy for him. He was getting older and not driving it so much, and his son was not interested in taking over ownership of it. For that time of year in southern Ontario it was a decent day for weather when I looked at it so I did have the opportunity to take it for a short drive, and I was very impressed with how tight and solid the car felt, not a worn out turd like many Foxes are these days. The seller realized that it wasn't a good time to trying to move along a hobby car in our climate, and I took a gamble and said that I'd check back with him in the spring to see if it was still available.

Spring came around finally so I emailed him to inquire about coming for a better look at it if still for sale. He responded that it was, however while having it at a shop to get a section of the exhaust repaired it was noticed that the turbo had a small oil leak. The seller is a fairly competent "backyard mechanic" so he decided to tackle the repair in his garage at home. To shorten the story, between being very thorough to source out the rebuild parts, and a vacation to Europe with his wife interrupting things, he only just got it put back together last weekend. So today I went down for a good look with my best friend of 35 years who has also been a Fox owner many times over. We took a dealer plate and a wad of cash in case a deal could be made. On the test drive again the car impressed, the Konis make the car so much nicer than the crap shocks that came in the 5.0 cars back in the day. Red Konis were one of the 1st mods I made to to my old 87, and I still remember how much they transformed the ride and handling.

To sum up, I ended up driving home in a nice silver 84 that just rolled over 70,000 km while we were out on the test drive. I'll post some pics when I get some and figure out where to upload them since Photobucket went full retard a few weeks back. In the meantime you guys have all seen enough original paint silver 84s that you can imagine what it looks like! Selling price was $5750 CAN, which I think is fair considering the overall condition of the car and the relatively low mileage. Tomorrow there is a fairly large annual Mustang club show on the west side of the greater Toronto area that I'll "debut" it at for my local Mustang friends. Plans are to lower it a bit (I have some late SN95 front control arms and Mach I springs hanging around), get some of the very simple non-through floor subframe connectors installed, and maybe a set of BBS RS mesh style wheels put on. Not looking to do anything that changes the character of the car or can't be easily undone. Another friend who's been playing with 2.3Ts for a long time has the later injectors and VAM kicking around, I'd just have to come up with a later EEC module to match. Thanks to the people here who've posted good threads and answered others' questions that came up when I did a search on various topics while digging for more info on these special cars. Being a Ford parts guy back to that era I pretty familiar with everything that was different and unique on these, but it's also nice to see what issues and fixes people have come up with over the years as these cars age long past their intended time on the road as Ford produced them.


cheers

Ed Nicholson

Caledon Ontario Canada

MikeFleming
07-29-2017, 08:33 PM
Congrats!

BTW - you can upload/post the pics here directly.

Laredo
08-26-2017, 09:42 AM
CONGRATS and thanks for sharing!
Let's see some pics (no need for photobucket). We like work-in-progress project too!
You should have no problem finding the later PE computer.
If you're going that route (35# injectors, etc) I would recommend also changing out your intake to the square type to get proper knock sensor function.

fast Ed
09-03-2017, 06:30 AM
Thanks guys. Car is home now after getting the provincial safety check done at the dealership where I look after the parts department. Had a leaky caliper, some pad separation, and a few flex hoses starting to crack so we put fresh pads / rotors / calipers / hoses on all 4 corners plus the centre rear hose. Took the opportunity to do the police version calipers with steel pistons and MM steel caliper sleeves with HPS pads up front. Put some decent OEM style pads in the rear for now, and have a set of the Porterfield rears on order that MM offers.

Local supplier also had an old set of Kenny Brown "Super Sub" frame connectors hanging around that he offered for a great deal, so I had our body shop get those welded on. Also found a cool old set of ARE 398 3 piece wheels on eBay, 16x8" +40 offset black mesh style (very similar appearance to BBS RS), with a low mile set of Bridgestone RE71R in the stock size. Those are on the car now and look great ... the ride height and fender gap is bugging me though, need to get some springs in the car soon.


cheers
Ed

Cereus57
09-30-2017, 12:24 PM
Wow Ed, what a great find for you. Look forward to seeing pictures!

ddx77
09-30-2017, 12:37 PM
Congrats Ed!


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fast Ed
10-01-2017, 06:24 PM
So here are a few pics finally, first one as it sat in the seller's driveway, second one at home after getting the brake work completed and bolting on the new to me wheels & tires.


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ddx77
10-02-2017, 03:24 PM
That looks great Ed! Congrats! I really love the Silver SVO's. Have fun with it!


So here are a few pics finally, first one as it sat in the seller's driveway, second one at home after getting the brake work completed and bolting on the new to me wheels & tires.


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Laredo
10-02-2017, 09:12 PM
Nice car! And those are some "grippy" Bridgestones...! ;)

fast Ed
10-03-2017, 06:47 PM
Thanks guys, enjoying it so far. Have done a bit of wrenching, the car had a low power issue after a hot restart sometimes, really felt like it was pulling ignition timing so we put a fresh Motorcraft TFI on it and seems good since. Also did Motorcraft plugs / wires / dist. cap and fuel filter, along with a fresh timing belt and tensioner. Had one of the techs at the dealership do fresh fluid in the trans and rear axle too. Figured that it was a good idea to refresh a bunch of this stuff if I was going to be leaning on it a bit at some track days.


Kendal, I got your p.m. but can't reply until I have 10 posts on here. If you go through my rambling first post you'll see a mention of the car being an early production option delete version, it's not a comp prep car as the seller thought it was. I made him aware of the difference on that, and he had also thought the car had an 8.8" ring gear as well.


cheers
Ed

Kendal Coker
10-04-2017, 06:41 PM
Thanks guys, enjoying it so far. Have done a bit of wrenching, the car had a low power issue after a hot restart sometimes, really felt like it was pulling ignition timing so we put a fresh Motorcraft TFI on it and seems good since. Also did Motorcraft plugs / wires / dist. cap and fuel filter, along with a fresh timing belt and tensioner. Had one of the techs at the dealership do fresh fluid in the trans and rear axle too. Figured that it was a good idea to refresh a bunch of this stuff if I was going to be leaning on it a bit at some track days.


Kendal, I got your p.m. but can't reply until I have 10 posts on here. If you go through my rambling first post you'll see a mention of the car being an early production option delete version, it's not a comp prep car as the seller thought it was. I made him aware of the difference on that, and he had also thought the car had an 8.8" ring gear as well.


cheers
Ed
Looks like a nice car. I am sure you will enjoy it. This is a great site for information.

fast Ed
10-05-2017, 05:27 PM
Forgot to mention, a few weeks back also had the dogbone clutch cable snap on me in stop and go traffic through a construction zone on the highway with no shoulders. Luckily it was slightly downhill, so I was able to get enough momentum going to get the car into 2nd then up through the gears as traffic cleared ahead. Was meeting some friends that night at a local Mustang club meet, made it there OK and called a friend who has lots of 2.3 stuff. He had a good used cable that he was able to pass by with, as well as a floor jack and the needed tools. Once he was there we had it done in about 10 minutes. Funny thing was that earlier the same week I had ordered a couple of NOS Ford cables from an obsolete parts supplier to have when needed, but they didn't arrive until the following Monday. One is in the console compartment now! LOL

Hoping to get at the suspension this weekend, the ride height is killing me.


cheers
Ed

SchoolBoy
05-08-2018, 11:48 AM
Any progress on this? I'm curious why your changing arms to drop the ride height as a simple spring set will do that?

fast Ed
05-17-2018, 05:55 PM
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Didn't do much with the car over the winter. Picked up a nice set of staggered 17" Stern Face II 3-pc wheels from a seller in Hong Kong, those are on the car now with Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 225/45R17 and 245/40R17. They are probably the best value right now for a summer performance tire, really strong grip dry and wet with a very reasonable price tag.

I had the SN95 control arms already, put fresh OEM ball joints and Global West Delrin bushings in them so they are ready to install. Figure that I'll save the OEM SVO arms for the meantime, and I have some Apex front springs from a local Mustang friend that he had cut to get a low ride height on his V8 Fox ... I'm thinking with the SN95 arms and less weight on the nose they should be just about right for me.

Also, as you can see in this photo, the right side door has had something done to it, previous owner says not during his ownership since 1986. A local body shop that I've dealt with for 20+ years will see what he can do with it, he is a whiz at blending older paint. Will likely get him to redo the wings too, and I have a repro Mach I front chin spoiler to slice and trim.


cheers
Ed

Under Pressure
05-17-2018, 06:17 PM
Looking good are you having any rubbing of the rear tires turning corners hard?

SchoolBoy
05-17-2018, 06:21 PM
Those stern's sure match the car very, very well! Definitely keep the fron arm's, I think Rob aka "roberto" can do the ball joint on those and he's in canada far as I know....

fast Ed
05-17-2018, 07:22 PM
Looking good are you having any rubbing of the rear tires turning corners hard?

Not at the current ride height, but it may when lowered. The rears are 17x9" at +38, pretty much the same as the Saleen SA10 cars used. That's the other thing I'll ask the body shop guy to do, is roll the rear fender lips. Long term plans if I keep the car would be to do SN95 brakes all around, in which case I'd use the 94-98 axles which would tuck the rear wheels in 1/2" per side, and I could adjust with thin spacers as desired.

Robertosvo
05-19-2018, 07:04 PM
Ed those wheels look GREAT on the car!!

fast Ed
05-21-2018, 05:52 AM
Those stern's sure match the car very, very well! Definitely keep the fron arm's, I think Rob aka "roberto" can do the ball joint on those and he's in canada far as I know....

Yup, I've met Rob through one of the local Mustang clubs, he's about 1/2 hr away from me. Knew he was an SVO guy, but didn't realize how hardcore till we met in person and chatted.

fast Ed
05-21-2018, 05:53 AM
Ed those wheels look GREAT on the car!!


thanks Rob!

Raven855
05-24-2018, 05:18 PM
Ed those wheels look GREAT on the car!!
I’m agreeing with Rob, they do look good!

fast Ed
07-15-2018, 09:01 AM
Figured that I would post an update on my 84, actually haven't done much with the car this year so far other than to enjoy driving it ... I've added about 3,500 km since buying it the middle of last summer. As previously posted, got the 17" Stern wheels on in the spring, receiving lots of positive comments about those. Also replaced the cracked inner R/S front lamp with a repro that the Mustang Shop in Calgary happened to have on the shelf, and swapped in a set of Bosch H4 conversion lights that were gifted by a friend. They previously lived in the 84 VW GTI he owned when I first met him back in the late 1980s as I got started in Solo and Solo II with my 87 5.0L LX.

Yesterday my buddy Stu and I tackled the droopy headliner by taking it down, brushing off the foam in between, and regluing. Didn't turn out perfect, we ended up with a few wrinkles, but much better than having it hanging down on the one side. It had gotten worse from when I'd bought the car after lots of windows-down drives with the warm weather we've been experiencing here in southern Ontario.

On the Monday of the Canada Day weekend (Sunday was our July 1 holiday, so July 2 was a statutory work holiday for most people including myself), I was at the local track for an annual event called "Mustangs at Mosport" put on by one of the area clubs. It's been running for about 15 years, and when I can get the day off I try to attend to help coach some of the rookies. It's not a proper HPDE, just a lapping day where they have coaches ride with the newbies for at least the first session to try to keep them safe. On a big fast track like Mosport it's maybe not the best approach, but better than throwing them out there with no help at all. I always encourage the local people who are thinking about doing this event to try to get to an HPDE at a less daunting track first to get a feel for it.

Anyway, the coaches get to drive in the advanced group at this one, so I did a few gentle laps in the SVO on my street tires. The Firestones that I put on the Stern wheels are great performers, they are based on a Bridgestone carcass and do very well for the price. Because I had already been at the track all weekend for Chumpcar racing (2 hours in a fire suit is tough when it's 90+ degrees and humid), I wasn't too concerned about trying to get a lot of laps in the SVO. So I didn't bother bring along the dedicated track rubber, just enjoyed the car as it was. Of course the turbo engine didn't like the excessive heat, especially on the long uphill back straight which is like a huge dyno pull, but the car felt good, can definitely notice the nimbleness of the front end compared to the 5.0L Fox that I used to race there. A friend got one decent shot of the car coming around corner 5 which leads on to the back straight. Any of you northern U.S. folks east of the Mississippi that do track days, this place should really be on your bucket list to check out. As Tommy Kendall said recently while covering the IMSA race, "if you don't get proper scared at least 4 times a lap around Mosport then you're not going fast enough". LOL I can certainly attest to that from my younger days when sprint racing there in the 5.0!


cheers
Ed
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rodster
07-15-2018, 12:04 PM
Looking good! Way to represent the SVO! :like2: