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poodultim
06-16-2012, 10:19 PM
Any one using a coil on plug ignition in your street car?

Thanks

Tim

Laredo
06-17-2012, 06:44 AM
Tim, coil on plug has been fairly standard on production vehicles for the last 10 years. Can you be a bit more specific with the intent of your question?

Robertosvo
06-17-2012, 08:50 AM
I think guys are using 'coil packs' from ls series engines when mated with Megasquirt setups. Dont know of anyone using COP setups

MikeFleming
06-17-2012, 09:07 AM
I have three cars with engines that use COP ignition. All of them are DOHC with a centralized spark plug and the COP assy is mounted to the cam cover with the long boot extensions to the plug way down inside an access hole.

To implement that on the 2.3L OHC would require a safe way to mount the COP unit above the plug and with the stock angle that puts it right over the hottest portion of the exhaust manifold. That would be very bad for longevity. Shouldn't be too difficult to create mounts to hold the upper portion of the COP and bolt it into place - either weld brackets to the cam cover or make something that mounts over the exhaust side cam cover-to-head mounting bolts.

Probably more better would be mounting the COP units above the cam cover (providing there's enough clearance with TB, tubing, hood, etc.) then run spark plug cables between the COP outputs and the plug itself. Kinds like what the dual-coil waste-spark coils do.

Brenda
06-17-2012, 09:10 AM
Would that then be SVO-COP?

Raven855
06-17-2012, 01:41 PM
I think guys are using 'coil packs' from ls series engines when mated with Megasquirt setups. Dont know of anyone using COP setups
The cop setups are popular with the MS crowd and many are using the Cobra cops. The truck LS coils just pack such an impressive spark though and the wire sets are short. Plus they allow you to move the coils away from the hot exhaust.

Bob Holmes
06-17-2012, 03:16 PM
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q181/horsewidower/Engine/P1030591.jpg

Technically SVO-CNP

Patrick
06-17-2012, 03:33 PM
I have it on my wife's 2.3 Ford street car. It also is an Atkinson cycle engine.They call it a Ford Escape Hybrid.

poodultim
06-30-2012, 08:07 PM
Thank you for the picture. Is this your car? What is the setup please. I see grey plug wires also,,,why??

Thanks

Tim

Bob Holmes
06-30-2012, 08:25 PM
Lsx coils, driven by a Haltech (LSx coils are self-ignitors). EDIS 36-1 wheel, CAMP hall effect sensor from a Ford diesel truck (thanks Pat!). We use stock LSx plug wires and a TR6 plug, which is a colder LS plug. The grey wiring is to the injectors, not additonal spark plug wires.

poodultim
06-30-2012, 08:35 PM
Thank you for the fast response. I'll have to research and digest your product info. Sorry for mistaking your injector wires for plugs wires---Lame on my part, but just going from the visual of my last turbo 4 which had 2 injectors per cylinder and a much smaller gauge of wire.

Tim

poodultim
06-30-2012, 09:07 PM
Bob-

Just a further bit on my quest for coil on plug- I need to eliminate the stock Ford distributor so that I can run
a tubed intake. The vehicle is an 84 SVO that I am reconfiguring to a more street able setup and have never assembled the pieces for a custom EFI. Years ago I purchased a complete 2.5 race system which only required
installation. After that I ran a 358" dry sump with carb so this will be a new experience.

Tim

Bob Holmes
07-01-2012, 06:57 AM
Good luck. I'm very pleased with the system. Its worked for us quite well. We've even adapted LSx coils to our '54 Chrysler Hemi Engine Masters engine. They are quite adaptable.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww58/SMITHBERGRACING/IMG_20111005_142236.jpg

Patrick
07-01-2012, 10:37 AM
Part numbers for the crank position sensor that Bob used.

http://www.svocop.com/forum/showthread.php?356-Crank-sensor-parts&highlight=position

Tim, I'll be up near Tacoma for this car guy get together in a couple weeks, which is listed here in our Events section.

http://www.svocop.com/forum/showthread.php?625-2012-Mustang-Roundup-amp-All-Ford-Picnic-Bellevue-WA

Many SVO freaks will travel in for this annual gathering. I'm sure that you can find a few examples to check out at the show or in another member's garage near Tacoma. (He lets me sleep in his car when I come up to visit!).

poodultim
07-03-2012, 09:37 AM
Part numbers for the crank position sensor that Bob used.

http://www.svocop.com/forum/showthread.php?356-Crank-sensor-parts&highlight=position

Tim, I'll be up near Tacoma for this car guy get together in a couple weeks, which is listed here in our Events section.

http://www.svocop.com/forum/showthread.php?625-2012-Mustang-Roundup-amp-All-Ford-Picnic-Bellevue-WA

Many SVO freaks will travel in for this annual gathering. I'm sure that you can find a few examples to check out at the show or in another member's garage near Tacoma. (He lets me sleep in his car when I come up to visit!).

Thanks for the notice-

I will contact the event people to see if any modified SVO's will be present. The only ones that I have seen over the years have been completely stock.

Tim

Patrick
07-03-2012, 11:10 AM
Thanks for the notice-

I will contact the event people to see if any modified SVO's will be present. The only ones that I have seen over the years have been completely stock.

Tim

Maybe I can get Meotchh to post a few pics of his 88, which is near your area. He has a FAST system on his car.

blueboss
07-04-2012, 06:32 AM
Maybe I can get Meotchh to post a few pics of his 88, which is near your area. He has a FAST system on his car.

You mentioned fast and the coupe in the same sentence.....:stick_poke:

Pyropete on TF is using COP on his 'squirted 2.3 Merkur. He sells what he makes as well. Can't vouch for the quality though. Check Ebay for the parts.