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Lanes84s
08-09-2012, 09:12 AM
So my glove box is lined with velvet or whatever, like it should be, but what else is suppose to be covered like that? I have heard of dashes being covered in it or something lol. Just wanted to be sure I have the right stuff! Also can a Hurst original shift knob have the leather re stretched over the core? :avatarbeat-dead-hor

Patrick
08-09-2012, 10:59 AM
The dash panels are supposed to be fuzzy as well. 84's had the fuzz inside the glove box as well.

I will forward your leather shift knob request to a member who may want to become a vendor here.

Chalky
08-09-2012, 11:26 AM
The "fuzzy" stuff is called flocking and is use on a lot of arts and crafts projects. You can buy flocking materials and supplies from companies like Don Jer and the process, once you get the glue mixture right is actually pretty easy.

Should I write a tec article???

Kendal Coker
08-09-2012, 11:35 AM
The "fuzzy" stuff is called flocking and is use on a lot of arts and crafts projects. You can buy flocking materials and supplies from companies like Don Jer and the process, once you get the glue mixture right is actually pretty easy.

Should I write a tec article???



yes please.

Patrick
08-09-2012, 01:51 PM
Kendal, show up at Sturgis and you can take pics for the article!

(Nudge, nudge, hint, HINT !!!)

Gyrhead
08-09-2012, 01:52 PM
I did mine for all my cars using DonJer's product. I think they came out great. The double cardboard tube applicator called the Mini-Flocker Kit was around $25 which includes your color choice of glue and fibers. A couple of key points.
-Use a low wattage soldering iron to melt out the plastic rivets holding the indicator and warning lamp gels in. A little heat does the job. Go easy!
-Spread the glue on thick. That way you avoid "bald" spots.
-Avoid too much glue around the turn indicators so they don't get filled in and misshapen.
-Practice first on scrap parts.
-Don't move/ handle for at least 24 hours. That way you don't get the nasty glue on your hands or your wife's slipcovers.
-Blow on the flocking with light pressure using the applicator at 45 degrees to the work. You don't want to blow off the stuff you already applied. Use small strokes with the high tech applicator.
-Don't touch them while drying. RESIST THE TEMPTATION...

I used the grey fiber which looked OK but too vivid and light IMHO, but then I tried the black on a set of junk panels and it was too dark. Then I tried a mix of grey and black. I think it came out great. I mixed up an equal amount of color and then sifted them together and applied. I'll find a pic at some point and post it.

Lanes84s
08-09-2012, 03:50 PM
The dash panels are supposed to be fuzzy as well. 84's had the fuzz inside the glove box as well.

I will forward your leather shift knob request to a member who may want to become a vendor here.

Thanks you very much for your offer to talk to him! I would love that and especially if he gives discounts with cores. Do your best to get him here cuz he could make some good money

Lanes84s
08-09-2012, 03:50 PM
I did mine for all my cars using DonJer's product. I think they came out great. The double cardboard tube applicator called the Mini-Flocker Kit was around $25 which includes your color choice of glue and fibers. A couple of key points.
-Use a low wattage soldering iron to melt out the plastic rivets holding the indicator and warning lamp gels in. A little heat does the job. Go easy!
-Spread the glue on thick. That way you avoid "bald" spots.
-Avoid too much glue around the turn indicators so they don't get filled in and misshapen.
-Practice first on scrap parts.
-Don't move/ handle for at least 24 hours. That way you don't get the nasty glue on your hands or your wife's slipcovers.
-Blow on the flocking with light pressure using the applicator at 45 degrees to the work. You don't want to blow off the stuff you already applied. Use small strokes with the high tech applicator.
-Don't touch them while drying. RESIST THE TEMPTATION...

I used the grey fiber which looked OK but too vivid and light IMHO, but then I tried the black on a set of junk panels and it was too dark. Then I tried a mix of grey and black. I think it came out great. I mixed up an equal amount of color and then sifted them together and applied. I'll find a pic at some point and post it.


Thanks very much! pictures would be great to know specifically where it should be located because I have it in the glove box but nowhere else

Lanes84s
08-09-2012, 03:51 PM
The "fuzzy" stuff is called flocking and is use on a lot of arts and crafts projects. You can buy flocking materials and supplies from companies like Don Jer and the process, once you get the glue mixture right is actually pretty easy.

Should I write a tec article???

Many people would appreciate that!

Gyrhead
08-10-2012, 05:07 AM
Thanks very much! pictures would be great to know specifically where it should be located because I have it in the glove box but nowhere else

I didn't take any pictures, but I know Chalky did. On my 86's the only flocking is on the removable dash panels around the gauges and inlayed into the pass dash over the glove box. These are collectively referred to as the "fuzzy dash" panels

Lanes84s
08-10-2012, 06:54 AM
I didn't take any pictures, but I know Chalky did. On my 86's the only flocking is on the removable dash panels around the gauges and inlayed into the pass dash over the glove box. These are collectively referred to as the "fuzzy dash" panels

available after market? or should I really just do it myself...and was it an option? I don't want to add it if it wasn't supposed to have it

Chalky
08-10-2012, 07:07 AM
The flocking on the dash panels is stock original and one of the many things that are SVO specific and make these cars unique. The flocking in the glovebox, dunno, but was only done on the 84's.

Gyrhead
08-10-2012, 07:15 AM
available after market? or should I really just do it myself...and was it an option? I don't want to add it if it wasn't supposed to have it

Good luck finding these NOS. They have been gone from Ford inventory for years. I bought a set from my dealer in 1998 and they were being obsoleted them, I was told. You might be able to find some around, but they will likely NFS or outrageously expensive.

Flock them yourself, or send them out. it's easy and fun. The hardest part is removing the old flocking and glue!

brsvo
08-10-2012, 09:16 AM
Do it yourself and you can look at mine Sunday if you want to see what it looks like after your done. I have the applicator so don't buy one of those. Do buy a good brush to put it on with though, the one that comes with it ends up in the flocking.

Gyrhead
08-10-2012, 10:19 AM
Yeah, don't use a foam brush. Use a disposable good quality one as the glue is impervious to everything.. While this post was going on, I went down stairs and flocked the back side of the pass panel with my gray/black mixture as a test. Since there is nothing to clean off the backside, I went right to town on it. Took all of 2 minutes. We have been having some wicked tropical humidity the last few weeks so I don't expect it to dry anytime soon. The key is to get good coverage with the flocking. Really coat it. Any extra gets dumped off and recycled or tossed. They give you tons..more than you'll ever need for a set of panels so don't worry about wasting it. Don't forget to get the edges and bevels inside the gauge and indicator cutouts. Also use a mask or N95 respirator. The stuff is pretty fine and you don't want to get black lung disease applying the stuff.

brsvo
08-10-2012, 01:12 PM
Yea I used the brush they gave me and there are streeks in the glue, resulting in lines you can see in just the right light. But not enough to notice 99% of the time. While we are on the subject it looks like my consol around the clock was flocked on my 84 does that sound correct or was that leather? Hard to tell at this point!

BrianM
08-10-2012, 01:29 PM
There is a really good tutorial that Mike Martinelli did on the re-fuzzy.
http://www.mikemartinelli.com/index.php?p=news&title=Mustang+SVO+fuzzy+dash+panel+refurbish
I did it this way and it turned out great. Got the charcoal gray flocking and paint/glue along with the mini flocker here
http://www.craftflocking.com/
Not exactly concourse correct but close and looks great (they look lighter in photos than they really are). Super easy to do. The hardest part is getting the lenses off and back on the panel but even that is simple if you use a little patience.

Lanes84s
08-11-2012, 07:01 AM
Thank you everyone! Bruce I'll look at yours tomorrow and see how it should be but the pictures up there ^ are really good, nice car! the panels that are in there look exactly like the ones from my GT except all the smoke that's on there -.-! But thanks again!

brownsvo
08-11-2012, 11:24 AM
man i honestly had no idea what half of this car looked like brand new lol.. i am scouring ebay looking for those parts to replace what went missing over the years.
Not sure if i like the 80s flocking, i sanded my panel and painted it black just to get it away from the offgrey color it was (no fuzzy left)

Lanes84s
08-12-2012, 01:47 PM
Well my '84 GT is a gray color, I like it. But I want to go all original, but Bruce informed me that every one was different from the factory basically and they could always be changed at the dealership :/. It looks and feels like there is a tiny bit of flocking left so I'll do my best to put it on there in the future. Good news is that I purchased a newish hatch from an SVO to replace my rotted out hatch...$20 is a winner in my opinion lol but no biwing

brsvo
08-12-2012, 06:07 PM
All the stickers and badges were differant from car to car in 84. The flocked panels were consistant thru the run of SVO's if I am correct.

Chalky
08-13-2012, 07:05 AM
Mikes write up is very good but I'll add a couple of things.......
To get the best colour rendering and get a close to stock look, after stripping, paint the panels with Duplicolor HVP-111, charcoal grey. This will add a little depth and avoid any thin spots. Also, for the best smoothest results, thin the glue 50/50 with some paint thinner. This makes it easier to brush on and avoids any blotchy patches as the glue is quite thick. It also allows you to spray it on wwith a Pre-val or equivalent hobby spray gun. Again, another good way to avoid the blotchy look.

Gyrhead
08-13-2012, 07:54 AM
Mikes write up is vvery good but I'll add a couple of things.......

To get the best colour rendering and get a close to stock look, after stripping, paint the panels with Duplicolor HVP-111, charcoal grey. This will add a little depth and avoid any thin spots. Also, for the best smoothest results, thin the glue 50/50 with some paint thinner. This makes it easier to brush on and avoids any blotchy patches as the glue is quite thick. It also allows you to spray it on wwith a Pre-val or equivalent hobby spray gun. Again, another good way to avoid the blotchy look.

If I can expound on Chalky's write-up...the panels are black when stripped of old flocking and adhesive. Therefore the Duplicolor precoat makes sense. I actually wet sand the panels in the slop sink to get off the residual glue. It can be a messy job. Some panels are tenacious and others, the flocking falls off and leaves a black/gray ring in the sink. Make sure you get good glue coverage into the 1/16" reveal/groove all the way around the panel this way the flocking adheres there too. If you don't spray the glue, avoid brush strokes as they tend to be the thinnest/baldest spots once all is said and done.

I just finished a gauge side panel a minute ago. I'll post some pics and see what you guys think of the mixed color once it dries.

BrianM
08-14-2012, 04:38 AM
The glue/paint I used was the same charcoal color as the flocking. I put on a pretty heavy coat using a good quality brush which did not leave brush marks. Don't see how pre-coating would add any depth since it would be completely covered with the glue coat.

All that being said you are right in you must get a good heavy but even coat to avoid any thin spots and bad brush marks most definitely will show.

My panels had pretty much nothing left on them. I sanded the little bit of residue off with some 220 then washed well before the flocking process.

SVOBoyd
03-04-2013, 07:26 AM
I am getting ready to try this, I just ordered the kit from DonJer. I had a hell of a time getting the old material off the panels, sand paper didn't work well it would load up with the glue. I wound up scrubbing them in soap and water with a scotch bright pad. Hopefully I get the kit this week, I'll post up some pictures when I get it done.

dznj
03-04-2013, 02:44 PM
It's not too hard, even I can do it! :)

http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/dmoglin/1985%20Ford%20Mustang%20SVO/IMG_20111204_124017.jpg
http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/dmoglin/1985%20Ford%20Mustang%20SVO/IMG_20111204_124004.jpg
http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/dmoglin/1985%20Ford%20Mustang%20SVO/IMG_20111205_174233.jpg
Excuse this lousy photo, but shows them installed:
http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/dmoglin/1985%20Ford%20Mustang%20SVO/2012-12-22_14-40-53_842_zps1f05b4c7.jpg

SVOBoyd
03-06-2013, 07:50 AM
I flocked mine last night, curious to see what they look like when I shake the excess flocking off.3890

MikeFleming
03-06-2013, 08:55 AM
Hmmm ... I wonder what that'd look like on a pair of shoes??

SVOBoyd
03-06-2013, 03:46 PM
Hmmm ... I wonder what that'd look like on a pair of shoes??

They have red flocking material!

svopony
03-06-2013, 04:34 PM
They have red flocking material!

don't tempt Mike with that ^ ^ ^